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the-firmware-password-in-mac-os-x/ ) ever since 2011 overruling the firmwar=
e password is not so easy and that it generally requires an Apple technicia=
n to do. Dani, or anyone else, is this the case that disabling an unknown f=
irmware password requires a trip over to see Dale Kentner? ;-)

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From: Keith Peck <kdpeck at uwaterloo.ca<mailto:kdpeck at uwaterloo.ca>>
Date: Monday, 28 January, 2013 4:06 PM
To: MacTUG <mactug at mailman.uwaterloo.ca<mailto:mactug at mailman.uwaterloo.ca>=
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Subject: [MacTUG] Preventing unauthorized OSX "Recovery"

Hi,
Is there a way to prevent a user from sitting down and accessing the Recove=
ry Options if they were to boot a machine running OSX 10.8 or 10.7?

Say someone holds down the 'ALT' key at system boot and decides to select t=
he Recovery Option, then uses the Disk Utility to wipe the hard drive, or a=
 re-install to give themselves admin access to the machine.

I=92m hoping for something like a requirement to enter a password before an=
ything under the =91Recovery=92 selection can be used when the =91ALT=92 ke=
y is held at boot.

Keith Peck
Client Services, Information Systems and Technology
University of Waterloo, Waterloo, Ontario, Canada, N2L 3G1.
MC 2020, (519) 888-4567 x.37770
kdpeck at uwaterloo.ca<mailto:kdpeck at uwaterloo.ca>


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<div>To elaborate on Dani's comments.</div>
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<div>This is not some great site that I have bookmarked or anything, but th=
is page explains it reasonably well</div>
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<div><a href=3D"http://www.chriswrites.com/2012/02/how-to-set-the-firmware-=
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<div>There are some ways to do it without booting from the recover partitio=
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<div>In the older macs, the firmware password was not perfect in the securi=
ty in that any simple change in the mac's hardware (like pulling out some o=
f the RAM) was enough to turn off the firmware. I think the reasoning was t=
hat if you could 'break in' to the
 mac enough to change the hardware, then clearly you were an admin type and=
 you should be able to turn off the firmware password. This line of reasoni=
ng was quasi-acceptable if all you had were Mac Towers, which could be lock=
ed to prohibit access, but there
 were a lot of macs such as a lot of iMacs and Mac Minis where it was reall=
y easy to change the ram configuration.</div>
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<div>From what I understand (e.g.&nbsp;<a href=3D"http://www.chriswrites.co=
m/2012/02/how-to-set-the-firmware-password-in-mac-os-x">http://www.chriswri=
tes.com/2012/02/how-to-set-the-firmware-password-in-mac-os-x</a>/ ) ever si=
nce 2011 overruling the firmware password
 is not so easy and that it generally requires an Apple technician to do. D=
ani, or anyone else, is this the case that disabling an unknown firmware pa=
ssword requires a trip over to see Dale Kentner? ;-)</div>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Hi,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Is there a way to prevent a user from sitting down a=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Say someone holds down the 'ALT' key at system boot =
and decides to select the Recovery Option, then uses the Disk Utility to wi=
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achine.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I=92m hoping for something like a requirement to ent=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN=
-CA">University of Waterloo, Waterloo, Ontario, Canada, N2L 3G1.<o:p></o:p>=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN=
-CA">MC 2020, (519) 888-4567 x.37770<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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-CA"><a href=3D"mailto:kdpeck at uwaterloo.ca"><span style=3D"color:blue">kdpe=
ck at uwaterloo.ca</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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