[MacTUG] Entourage EWS released

Steve Hellyer phasetwo at apple.com
Fri Aug 14 11:30:39 EDT 2009 

Sorry yes my mistake. It only requires Exchange Web Services protocol  
to provide access to Exchange Server 2007.  Issue was Exchange 2000 &  
2003 didn't have that web Service protocol.

Steve

On 14-Aug-09, at 11:12 AM, Donald Duff-McCracken wrote:

> So Steve, I thought it was the version of exchange that was the  
> important
> thing. Entourage EWS needs exchange server 2007 (which we have) but  
> they do
> not make a point over which version of the server it is running on.
>
> While I like Entourage EWS, I was hoping to move back to Mail.app  
> when 10.6
> came out and to encourage the upgrade to 10.6 for my Mail.app users  
> (who are
> 90% of my mac users, even if they have entourage on their machines).  
> It will
> be a shame if the exchange services it provides are reliant on  
> server 2008.
> As Trevor rightly pointed out, there are no plans to migrate to 2008  
> server,
> one of the main reasons being that we will likely be making a big  
> migration
> to the next version of exchange which does need to sit on server 2008.
> Steve, for sure having Exchange 2007 sitting on server 2003 is not  
> enough?
>
> Regarding Outlook for the Mac and what it needs, I think that one will
> likely be pretty much moot. I would not be surprised if we are on  
> the new
> version of exchange before office 2010 sees widespread use (no  
> pressure
> Trevor, Tim, etc, haha)
>
> On 14/08/09 10:25 AM, "Steve Hellyer" <phasetwo at apple.com> wrote:
>
>> Just a quick note to check what MS server version you have to get  
>> this
>> functionality.
>>
>> Yes Snow Leopard client will connect to MS Exchange for messages,
>> meetings, contacts via Mail, iCal, AddressBook; however, it uses the
>> new web protocols/access found in Window 2008 server to do that.   
>> This
>> maybe the case with latest MS Entourage and future MS Mac Outlook as
>> well (not sure?).
>>
>> Upgrading Windows 2003 server to 2008 server seems hurdle for most of
>> the customer I have talked to.  It may require some additional  
>> upgrade
>> planning and budget.
>>
>> Steve
>>
>> On 14-Aug-09, at 9:58 AM, Donald Duff-McCracken wrote:
>>
>>> Yes it works in our environment -- I have run it for a few months
>>> and not
>>> noticed any issues.
>>>
>>> I was a beta tester and it worked quite well and (as I am writing
>>> this) I
>>> have upgraded to the non-beta version and it works as well. So it
>>> would be
>>> good for other folks to test it out.
>>>
>>> Having said that, as a mac user I am uncertain which program I will
>>> use in
>>> the future. The MacMail that comes with OS X 10.6 looks great from  
>>> the
>>> perspective of exchange integration, and Microsoft dropped a  
>>> bombshell
>>> yesterday (I think) stating that the next mac Office will have
>>> Outlook for
>>> mac included! http://www.officeformac.com/.59b7a1cc
>>>
>>>
>>> On 14/08/09 5:57 AM, "Ian Turner" <iturner at uwaterloo.ca> wrote:
>>>
>>>> does this work in our environment? ie is the Exchange Server up to
>>>> these
>>>> requirements?
>>>> If so, then Jennifer or I will volunteer as additional testers
>>>>
>>>> Ian
>>>>
>>>> Donald Duff-McCracken wrote:
>>>>> This is great news for entourage/connect.uwaterloo.ca users
>>>>>
>>>>> I have been beta testing a version of Entourage that is more
>>>>> exchange
>>>>> friendly ‹ It can understand the GAL, let users load their
>>>>> contacts onto
>>>>> the server, works much better with calendars (when bookit is
>>>>> replaced),
>>>>> etc etc. It does provide a superior Exchange experience. (Yes I  
>>>>> know
>>>>> Snow Leopard is coming in a few weeks which will also provide a
>>>>> superior
>>>>> exchange experience ‹ it will be great to have these 2 options)
>>>>>
>>>>> _http://www.microsoft.com/mac/itpros/entourage-ews.mspx_
>>>>>
>>>>> from this page:
>>>>>
>>>>>      * Enhanced Autodiscover service to easily configure account
>>>>> and
>>>>>   automatically keep settings up to date.
>>>>>       * Synchronization between Exchange Server and Entourage 2008
>>>>>   Notes, Tasks, and Categories.
>>>>>       * Addition of an Enable Logging (troubleshooting)
>>>>> preference, to
>>>>>   log all events that can be used as diagnostic information.
>>>>>       * Built-in logging with extensive reporting of diagnostic
>>>>>   information.
>>>>>       * Use of attachments in Entourage for Exchange calendar
>>>>> events.
>>>>>       * Resolve names when composing mail and invites while
>>>>> outside of
>>>>>   work without requiring VPN and LDAP.
>>>>>
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