[MacTUG] Server Admin Tools

Richard Crispin rcrispin at sju-serv1.uwaterloo.ca
Wed Oct 31 16:35:54 EDT 2007 

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06:35:20 -0500 From: Dave Schroeder <das at doit.wisc.edu> Subject: Re: 
Unified Server Admin tool To: Marc Siskin <msiskin at andrew.cmu.edu> Cc: 
Mac OS X Server list <Macos-x-server at lists.apple.com> Message-ID: 
<E52226C1-20ED-4681-8105-A4B81531CB71 at doit.wisc.edu> Content-Type: 
text/plain; charset="us-ascii" On Oct 30, 2007, at 6:06 AM, Marc Siskin 
wrote:

> > Is there a unified tool that will allow me to administer a mixed  
> > group of Tiger and Panther servers?  The 10.5 server admin tool says  
> > that my 10.4.10 servers are too old to administer.
> >
> > I can't downgrade to the 10.4 tools as they won't install on Leopard.
> >
> > What tool(s) are you using or going to use?
>   

No mystery here.

You can get the required version of the admin tools by copying them  
from any 10.4.10 server directly to a Leopard machine. They don't have  
to be "installed" from their installer.

You can also use Apple Remote Desktop (or, Leopard's Screen Sharing  
client) to connect to the remote server, and use the admin tools  
directly on the console of the server.

Some of the 10.5 tools, such as Server Monitor, do work on remote  
servers running, e.g., 10.4.x and 10.3.x.

- Dave
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 07:41:07 -0400
From: Pete Akins <pete.akins at uc.edu>
Subject: Re: Unified Server Admin tool
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On Oct 30, 2007, at 7:06 AM, Marc Siskin wrote:


> > Is there a unified tool that will allow me to administer a mixed  
> > group of Tiger and Panther servers?  The 10.5 server admin tool says  
> > that my 10.4.10 servers are too old to administer.
> >
> > I can't downgrade to the 10.4 tools as they won't install on Leopard.
> >
> > What tool(s) are you using or going to use?
> >
>   

This document should prove to be helpful:

http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=301590

Interestingly enough, this document was altered since I first looked  
at it yesterday. It referenced the ability to use the 10.5 tools to  
administer a 10.4.11 server. Since 10.4.11 is not with us yet, they  
may have redacted that statement temporarily (I can only hope that  
that's the case). 10.4 tools can be used to administer a 10.3 server  
but, you cannot use 10.4 tools on a 10.5 machine. So if you need  
Panther support, you'll need to admin from a 10.4 machine.

If and when 10.4.11 is released, you may want to return to that  
document to see if things have been updated.

-Pete-


Peter Akins
Applications Analyst & Adjunct Instructor
College of Design, Architecture, Art & Planning
University of Cincinnati

4425D Aronoff
[v] 513.556.0947
pete.akins at uc.edu




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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 06:52:06 -0500
From: Dave Schroeder <das at doit.wisc.edu>
Subject: Re: Unified Server Admin tool
To: Pete Akins <pete.akins at uc.edu>
Cc: macosx-server List <macos-x-server at lists.apple.com>
Message-ID: <0C6BC792-8CA4-4FC0-A95B-7387A882A44B at doit.wisc.edu>
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On Oct 30, 2007, at 6:41 AM, Pete Akins wrote:


> >
> > On Oct 30, 2007, at 7:06 AM, Marc Siskin wrote:
> >
>   
>> >> Is there a unified tool that will allow me to administer a mixed  
>> >> group of Tiger and Panther servers?  The 10.5 server admin tool  
>> >> says that my 10.4.10 servers are too old to administer.
>> >>
>> >> I can't downgrade to the 10.4 tools as they won't install on Leopard.
>> >>
>> >> What tool(s) are you using or going to use?
>> >>
>>     
> >
> > This document should prove to be helpful:
> >
> > http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=301590
> >
> > Interestingly enough, this document was altered since I first looked  
> > at it yesterday. It referenced the ability to use the 10.5 tools to  
> > administer a 10.4.11 server. Since 10.4.11 is not with us yet, they  
> > may have redacted that statement temporarily (I can only hope that  
> > that's the case). 10.4 tools can be used to administer a 10.3 server  
> > but, you cannot use 10.4 tools on a 10.5 machine. So if you need  
> > Panther support, you'll need to admin from a 10.4 machine.
>   

You can indeed use 10.4 tools on a 10.5 machine (at least Server Admin  
and Workgroup Manager; Server Monitor works with 10.3.x-10.5.x). And  
Apple Enterprise Support has at various times recommended exactly this  
as a solution (i.e., copying the latest version of the server admin  
tools from a remote server as opposed to installing them from the  
standalone installer, since it's not always the latest version).

It may be that 10.4.11 adds some capabilities to be administered by  
the 10.5 tools, but even if it doesn't, the appropriate 10.4 tools can  
simply be copied from a 10.4.x machine as appropriate and used locally  
on a 10.5 system.

- Dave
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jdunnett at math.uwaterloo.ca wrote:
> Hello Everyone,
>
> We have three different machines running OS X Server.  Two XServes 
> (Intel and G5) running OS X Server (Tiger).  Just today I upgraded an 
> old G5 Tower we have to OS X Server (Leopard).  My desktop machine is 
> running Tiger.  I realized that the Server Admin Tools for Leopard 
> Server will not install on a machine running Tiger.  Does anyone know 
> if the Server Admin Tools for Tiger will install on Leopard?
>
> Unfortunately I don't have a desktop machine running Leopard to test.
>
> Regards,
> Jeff
>
>
>
>
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