[MacTUG] Emerge 64 bit

[Stephen Markan]

Thank you!
I have punted the RT with some snippets from this dialogue up the IST Director and Manager chain of command!
:)

From: Dani Roloson <daroloson at uwaterloo.ca>
Sent: April 17, 2019 3:02 PM
To: Stephen Markan <smarkan at uwaterloo.ca>; Marlon Griffith <m3griffith at uwaterloo.ca>; MacTUG <mactug at mailman.uwaterloo.ca>
Subject: Re: [MacTUG] Emerge 64 bit

963533<https://rt.uwaterloo.ca/Ticket/Display.html?id=963533>

emergecli needs to be updated to 64-bit for Macs<https://rt.uwaterloo.ca/Ticket/Display.html?id=963533>

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From: mactug-bounces at lists.uwaterloo.ca<mailto:mactug-bounces at lists.uwaterloo.ca> <mactug-bounces at lists.uwaterloo.ca<mailto:mactug-bounces at lists.uwaterloo.ca>> on behalf of Stephen Markan <smarkan at uwaterloo.ca<mailto:smarkan at uwaterloo.ca>>
Sent: April 17, 2019 2:59:59 PM
To: Marlon Griffith; MacTUG
Subject: Re: [MacTUG] Emerge 64 bit

Thank you Marlon! That is helpful.

The issue appears to be that the client has essentially run since 2013 without any further major maintenance.

Rather than take more MacTUG bandwidth with this topic, I would suggest the IST folks on this list pass this issue up the IST food-chain and get ownership of this clarified.

The last support document for IST EMERG was written in  2013 by Martin Timmerman :)
"Who is responsible for the ongoing maintenance of the technology?

David Canzi of IST is assigned responsibility for ongoing maintenance of the server component. Currently there is no official assignment of responsibility for ongoing maintenance of the client software. Distribution of the client software to managed workstations in Nexus is the responsibility of the IST Windows Services team. Mike Cocker has packaged the software for easy distribution within Nexus."


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From: mactug-bounces at lists.uwaterloo.ca<mailto:mactug-bounces at lists.uwaterloo.ca> <mactug-bounces at lists.uwaterloo.ca<mailto:mactug-bounces at lists.uwaterloo.ca>> On Behalf Of Marlon A. Griffith
Sent: April 17, 2019 2:44 PM
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Subject: Re: [MacTUG] Emerge 64 bit

Erick Engelke verified that the last time he worked on the core shellscript was 2010. He still has the source code if it is needed.

I think the issue is the mac installer script. It was 'compiled' on a 32 bit macos. If anyone, has a 64 bit utility that creates mac installers, then they can fix the issue.

cheers,
Marlon


On 2019-04-17 2:35 PM, Marlon A. Griffith wrote:
> Engineering Computing created the emerge cli but it was moved over to
> IST 3 or 4 years ago when it was migrated to using launchd. Eng comp
> has NOT supported it for those number of years.
>
> Marlon
>
>
> On 2019-04-17 11:53 AM, Mike Patterson wrote:
>> My bad. :) What Stephen says!
>>
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>> On Apr 17, 2019, at 11:52 AM, Stephen Markan
>> <smarkan at uwaterloo.ca<mailto:smarkan at uwaterloo.ca<mailto:smarkan at uwaterloo.ca%3cmailto:smarkan at uwaterloo.ca>>> wrote:
>>
>> While Engineering doesn't use RT directly there is an Engineering
>> queue monitored by Steve Carr and information is relayed to the
>> appropriate Engineering IT specialist.
>>
>> An RT ticket also raises some other process flags. Please do submit
>> the RT as part of how this moves forward.
>>
>> Regards
>> Stephen
>>
>>
>> Sent from my BlackBerry-the most secure mobile device.
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>> From: mpatters at uwaterloo.ca<mailto:mpatters at uwaterloo.ca<mailto:mpatters at uwaterloo.ca%3cmailto:mpatters at uwaterloo.ca>>
>> Sent: April 17, 2019 11:46 AM
>> To: dsmccrac at uwaterloo.ca<mailto:dsmccrac at uwaterloo.ca<mailto:dsmccrac at uwaterloo.ca%3cmailto:dsmccrac at uwaterloo.ca>>
>> Cc: mactug at lists.uwaterloo.ca<mailto:mactug at lists.uwaterloo.ca<mailto:mactug at lists.uwaterloo.ca%3cmailto:mactug at lists.uwaterloo.ca>>
>> Subject: Re: [MacTUG] Emerge 64 bit
>>
>>
>> The Emerge client is currently Engineering Computing's project, and
>> they don't use RT. However, the topic came up today at WNAG and Ray
>> White from Engineering Computing was present. That might cause
>> something to happen. Also, it's definitely on IST's radar.
>>
>> Mike
>>
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>> soc at uwaterloo.ca<mailto:soc at uwaterloo.ca>
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>> On Apr 17, 2019, at 11:41 AM, Donald Duff-McCracken
>> <dsmccrac at uwaterloo.ca<mailto:dsmccrac at uwaterloo.ca<mailto:dsmccrac at uwaterloo.ca%3cmailto:dsmccrac at uwaterloo.ca>>> wrote:
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>> Haha right after sending that, I just remembered I had an untouched
>> Mojave mac on the bench (I usually disable the 32bit warning as per
>> https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/324139/how-to-suppress-aler
>> t-this-app-is-not-optimized-for-your-mac)
>> so I was not seeing the 32 bit warning on the emergecli executable.
>> Dani why don't you put in an RT on it? It should be updated but
>> likely will not without an RT put in.
>>
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>> Subject: Re: [MacTUG] Emerge 64 bit
>>
>> Dani, what is 32/64 bit issue in regards to it? Now I am using my own
>> installer for emerge but all it installs is the emergcli unix
>> executable and a daemon that launches it. I have not installed this
>> on a lot of macs but I did not notice any warnings with it. (With
>> other stuff I use - Adobe CS apps - yes, but not this app)
>>
>> don
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>> Subject: [MacTUG] Emerge 64 bit
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>> Is someone actively upgrading this or is it now deprecated?
>>
>>
>>
>> Dani
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