I just found out today that there is an Apple Expo in Toronto on Fri. Aug. 21. I doubt I can go but others might be able to. The web site is http://www.appleexpo.ca/ It looks kind of interesting. Richard Richard Crispin rcrispin at me.com Cell 519-591-8948 #27-590 Bearinger Rd. Waterloo, ON N2L 6C4